Notes Lower Decks Wrap up Episode:
To me the overarching theme was disconnection and finding ourselves and others, and how we have to reach out to resolve that, at least in part. Having spent a large part of the season with my first time ever almost complete disconnection to myself, maybe that’s why it resonated with me. Though....I don’t think I’ve managed the reach out part in my own life yet. Maybe a little. And they are probably right. But it’s easier said than done.
Of course I’m the person you refer to that hands down was all about the Spock Burnham. Lol. Maybe not. I haven’t been on the Patreon boards. Just the forum.
Wow. You guys just really didn’t like Discovery, either season lol. I sure hope it comes around for you.
Agree fight scene one of the best of the season. It super worked. It added to both characters. If we didn’t have to bolt through a main story and got two or three episodes to explore, I really think they would have had more of a story.
My takeaway with the writers were when they were allowed free reign they were great and when they were expected to fill in the blank to get HERE they fumbled. I know there was more about religion planned, reportedly there is even a photo somewhere of Pike wearing a cross that caused a hue and cry before the season. That was apparently removed. I wish they were allowed to just go for things but I suspect they are crossed by hierarchy a lot.
Omg. I love bearded Spock. I’m sure I’ll love clean young Spock too but I love bearded Spock. However, only with the leather coat. Would be awful with the uniform.
I loved the Bowie scene. My favorite thing was how it supplanted Stamets saying to Tilly “I love you”. Because he’s just not that kind of guy but he wanted to. And you know Tilly loves him. “Tell his wife he loved her very much” “She knows”.
Hard in the extreme to pick best scene... tie between Spock/Burnham Gym, Vulcan salute in bay, or final “I love you”. Okay. All Spock Burnham scenes and definitely that Spock Stamets scene. I’ll tag you on Instagram of a mashup I did between that and Journey to Babel that was just....I mean Young Spock totally won me over at that moment Because I completely flashed back to Journey to Babel.
Yes. 👎🏻for Yum Yum. And she seemed uncomfortable with it as well.
Well at least we all felt the same way about Spock and Pike. :( I felt Michael actually made a huge stride, in that she recognized what Spock recognized long ago and what he was really angry about and couldn’t communicate with her because of. (I really can write better than this if I take time. I promise. Sorry). Her obsessive need to burden herself , not not just with responsibility but ownership and responsibility of things she does NOT have control over. And not grasping that SHE does not always cause “the bad things” and therefore HAVE to fix them ALL by herself. It goes back to the child S & B scene and how he kept trying to get her to include them. “OUR family.“ “OUR home”. And I do hope next season we see her relax because of this.
I will pick one point. Maybe in the past there was not any inherent tension or hostility between religion and science. But we see it daily now and in fact experience it daily in our own lives. Like day in and day out. There *shouldn’t* be. Astronauts are a great example as those who often have their experience grow their faith. But I can tell you that seems to have suffered mightily the last decade or two and the writers probably grew up in that time (they all seem pretty young). I am sad to say, I’m not sure how to get around that. I know I am daily disheartened by the fact that absolutely there is at least a huge tension and yes, even hostility, between science and religion in modern Christianity. I mean I literally am reminded of that each day in the real world and with people I know personally. You literally cannot talk about science with people or they lose their minds. And the odd thing is they use it! I mean it’s like if it’s useful to them personally right now, it’s fine. Otherwise whoa Nelly, do you get the stink eye. And if you bring up data, you get the eye roll if not outright “those are lies”. So I don’t know. Maybe that’s a regional thing and you don’t experience it. But I sure do. There are two sides to that story and maybe there is an issue with the writers and they need to bring on a couple of people who remember a time you could have both. I don’t know.
Well I have no idea what they will do in season three. I do not believe Michael at least would ever return. I’m pretty sure no matter what they do there will be a big hue and cry of dismay. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Would it be so bad if they set the federation straight in its mission if it’s begun to list to the side?
Also .... why didn’t you call your drink....”Timehole”. Lol.
Well.. I guess I’m kind of sad. And I guess I am definitely a character driven viewer but I always have been I believe, since I was little. (And Spock was always my jam. Always. So....probably why I like this season although I had no expectations going into the season of how they would handle him and was suspicious.) I also have little faith Discovery will go beyond next season because there are simply too many variables in demand from fans. Which is too bad. I mean they seem to have to fight every decision they have made with one faction or another. I hope I am wrong. I simply need to be happy that so far I love the characters and their stories and maybe Jett will be there a lot more (knock on wood. Tig has time to clear out her schedule this time). I do hope/wish they’d slow the pace down because they won’t get 26 episodes so hopefully they will figure out a way to do say 10-12 with a more evenly spread story across characters. (But of course then there will be a lot of people who don’t like that. I was always amazed this year at reading and listening to how the same episode would be described as too “talky“ by one analyst (and they definitely meant character moments) and as “needs more quiet character moments” by another.) I’m just glad I’m not a writer. I can’t imagine the pressure.
I do hope that if nothing else they take advantage of what appears to be fairly universal love of Pike (and even surprisingly- I expected WAY more pushback) Spock. If Disco has done nothing else it birthed that possibility. And despite Pike being a white man it doesn’t mean it has to be a straight male dominated show. I don’t know. I’m kinda depressed now. Oh well. Lol.