Feb 25

Sound of Thunder

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I haven't seen any of S2 yet. I was disappointed in the ending of S1 and have been listening to the podcast hoping to find something of the potential I saw in season 1. The previous Saru episode and now this one I am going to subscribe to catch up. Great podcast episode.

Feb 26

This episode really worked for me. Things seemed so much more "earned" this time out, instead of contrived like usual. Shout out to the podcast, which NEVER disappoints. You guys are so smart and so smooth in vocal delivery. Most importantly, you're fair toward the show, highlighting the things it does well and calling out the head-scratching missteps. Keep up the great work!

It's nice to hear lazy writing called out for what it is.

Thanks for the kind words! It's much easier to cheer when the show gets it right, so I hope this episode was the beginning of a trend.

Feb 26

@Glenn The picture of the Kelpiens as compliant victims in the maintaining of the Great Balance was overturned in this episode. I'm hoping we have not lost the kind, gentle giant Saru in favor of an explosive and easy to anger stranger. If that happens, he will be an alien in more ways than one.

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Daniel, thanks for continuing to listen even though you haven't been watching. I hope the episodes we've liked will live up to your expectations. And we've got a bonus episode coming out on the regular feed on Thursday this week that will cover the DS9 episode "Our Man Bashir," which was a lot of fun.

I watched the episode last night, and I've begun but not finished this week's podcast. You might very well have covered this by the end of the episode, but since I have some time right now I wanted to chime in and give my half-formed thoughts on the Red Angel.

 

(First, @Glenn I believe the time-travel possibility was brought up by Tyler at the end of the previous episode, where S31 observed some kind of radiation or whatever associated with the appearances. I don't think they actually said "chronoton" but it was something along those lines.)

 

Thanks to Saru's "enhanced vision" of the angel, we got a pretty good look at its body, and they described it as "a humanoid in a suit". That humanoid outline looks pretty feminine to me. My wacky prediction is that it's future-Burnham herself. Would explain the angel's focus on Spock and Discovery, and perhaps also Burnham's absence from future-Trek canon. But it's also super, super obvious… I am not good at predictions of this sort, so if it's something I immediately think of, it's probably not clever enough to be true.

I'm right there with you, but I thought it might be Tilly because of her connection to the mycelial network. I like your suggestion better. Of course, I'm still really holding out for it to be Future Captain Archer.

I personally have decided that this series makes more sense to me if it is in a different universe from the other shows that have been aired before. So anything that we have seen before could still happen or not. Burnham could still be around and there is no retconing needed. It may not be the official stance on the series, but it makes me less critical of the discrepancies.

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  • I had missed some of the bonus content and am finally getting to your coverage of S1 ep1 Caretaker. I've really enjoyed it. I have seen the first 3 or 4 seasons back when they originally aired but haven't seen any since then. I can't say that Voyager stuck with me, it's my least favorite Trek. So my question for anyone is: What are the 5-10 best episodes of Voyager?
  • I am not the biggest Voyager fan. The series never lived up to the potential I thought it had. So my disappointment in it is all on my end as a viewer. That being said I recently watched the premiere episode again and was impressed by how good it was. The intro starts with a text crawl that looks like it came from a 16 bit video game. Its terrible. I don't think it was needed, some other contextual clue would have been better. The intro then drops us right in the action with Maquis being chased by Cardassians and disappearing. This is more action than most episodes get right off the bat. The main function of a premier is to show us the crew, the ship and the setting. Voyager does an excellent job introducing the crew. Disgraced officers, rebels and a mix of new and veteran Starfleet personnel promises for an interesting show. Captain Janeway is fully fleshed out from the get go, they did a great job making her character feel real for the audience. The cameo by Quark is also very well used, setting up a crucial friendship between Paris and Kim. They spend enough time and give us something about all of our main cast here which is a very strong start. The ship doesn't need alot of time and doesn't get it. It can't compare to the Enterprise so they don't try. It's a smart choice. The plot in how they ended up in the situation is where this gets a little thin. I actually think they would have been better served by making the alien more incomprehensible rather than a hologram that babbles. Janeway makes a difficult and understandable choice, but if I was a crewman I would be mightily pissed off. This is a strong start for the series and is the second best premier, after DS9, in my opinion. It was way lower for me prior to this rewatch, so I am somewhat surprised by Voyager here.

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