The first jarring note in this episode was Amanda's statement that Sarek banned her from showing her love for Spock which seems totally at odds with Sarek's statement that he wanted Burnham to teach Spock empathy. Surely if he wanted Spock to know empathy the best person to do that would be his own mother.
Second was a secret organization that carries around distinctive identity items, way to go on secrecy.
I have no problem with the extraction of the parasite from Tilly what ever it's rights it has none to invade another person's body.
I really object to the show runners pandering to the treker extremists into not using the tech we can imagine existing in our future because it could not be portrayed in the sixties. Should we also have the shaky sets, the rubbish fx and the ham acting as well? In my opinion if they have such a problem with the show then they should just go away and watch reruns of TOS.
I agree. I can wave it away but frankly the jarring notes to me are the attempts to “fix” the things “fans” complained most about. I’ll take it for a while but I hope they drop attenpting to satisfy everyone that has an issue that it’s toonadvanced it the aliens are too alien-y.
I dont know that Satek banned it. I think she said strongly discouraged emotional response. Frankly I am not a mother but I know moms and it’s give an inch take a mile. That’s where Burnham would have been a safer choice to teach empathy. I highly doubt Amanda would have been able to just issue just so much response and no more. In fact mothers pretty much often can’t distinguish when their children have had enough emotion rained on them. Of course, Sarek’s reasoning also comes from a pure Vulcan standpoint no matter how much he is attracted to humans. He’s not going to be the best decision maker there.
Re: the pod I wanted to say I totally agree with Valerie on the relationship between Tyler and L’Rell. He’s devoted to her cause but he does not have his feelings about perceived abuse at all sorted out. I doubt he ever will. But he is desperate to belong. He says as much to Georgiou at the end, which is why he was so willing to make a family and hope he might be able to find his way to a different relationship woth L’Rell. (Which boy, nope nope nope. Glad they didn’t even try that. Bad idea. All around ).
I thought Georgiou’s protestations about children were a bit.....strong. Makes me wonder if she had another child than her adopted daughter. (L’Rell’s deadpan “I’ll take that advice under advisement“ (or thereabouts.) was hilarious. But also as funny as Georgiou’s but with Ash at the end she she started to twinkle at the baby and then reverted to “exasperated not caring“ when he caught her at it, I wonder if they aren’t setting up that she has more Prime Georgiou than she’d care to admit in her.
Yeah she looked really into the baby till ash looked at her I must admit I laughed out loud at that .
@kev may @Karen Chuplis Thanks for the shout-out! I think that with Georgiou they are going for a "evil emperors from the mirror universe hate babies - see, we told you they were evil!" and it can come off a bit strong. That being said, I think the mirror universe is a place where "coming off too strong" and ham acting are still very much welcome and alive, and I enjoy it! I do wonder how Georgiou feels about puppies, though...
Oh my gosh you guys. Just rewatching and ....are the “people“ that Capt. Vega says are on the case of finding Spock Section 31? And does Pike pick that up? Because he say “the ‘people’” in a very quotation marked way.
My though after the episode is that Spock didn't escape but was extracted from starbase 5 by section 31 operatives and it was them who caused any fatalities or that the operatives tried to take Spock and he resisted killing them and then leaving because he was not safe there.
@kev may It didn't even occur to me but boy does it make sense.
Oh, wow. Yes, this must be what's going on because otherwise we're just going to keep getting these stories about Tyler and Georgiou that won't have anything to do with what's happening with our Discovery crew.
Great idea, kev. I usually let the story come to me rather than trying to guess what will happen next, but the scenario you've proposed really makes sense to me. I did get the clue that Shazad (great name!) is going to continue to be on the show though, unfortunately, Mary Chieffo isn't since she is still listed in the credits as a guest star, whereas Shazad's name is in the title sequence. Too bad, she is quite the actress, and she did learn to speak Klingon with some fluency. I also hoped to see more of Kenneth Mitchell, but it looks like he's bit the dust for good.
I just discovered that Sarek National Park is located in Sweden. No lie. It's on the map.
Oh, wow, I had no idea. This is now on my list of dream mountaineering expeditions.
@Glenn Lower Decks field trip!
@Valerie H. I've already ordered the maps.