Hey Valerie & Glenn, another great podcast! Had a couple notes to share... 1) That list of decorated Starfleet captains which Saru peruses was actually chock-full of Trekker trivia goodness. You mentioned Captains Archer, Georgiou and Pike (who could be flying the Enterprise around during STD's timeline, with Spock as his Number One). But also on that list was Robert April, who - according to his one and only appearance in ST: The Animated Series - was the the very first captain of the USS Enterprise (!!!), so his inclusion on this list may be April's first official reference in live action Trek. Also on the list was Matthew Decker, a character whom we see in ST: The Original Series (episode "The Doomsday Machine") as Commodore Decker. And this is particularly interesting in relation to what we hear of Captain Lorca's backstory in this ep of ST: Discovery, because Decker is also a Starfleet captain who will be infamous for leading his own entire crew to their deaths while he alone survives. Btw, Matt Decker is also the grandfather of Will Decker, one of the lead characters of ST: The Motion Picture ;) 2) While it's clear SOMEthing dark and evil is going on with Stamets at the end of this ep, I'm not entirely convinced yet that it's linked to the Mirror Universe. However! When I heard you guys explaining the Mirror Universe for listeners unfamiliar with it, I think what you said was a bit misleading. I'm reading a comic book series set in the ST: TNG Mirror Universe, and the author, Scott Tipton, gave this great explanation of it in his endnotes: "The Mirror Universe isn't the Bizarro World. These characters aren't the opposites of the characters we know, they've just been dramatically reforged by living in a much more unforgiving and dangerous environment. So while it could be tempting to make a stereotypical 'evil twin' character, it's much more gratifying to find ways to keep that character true to what we know about him or her, and then watch in horror at how they've been perverted."