Jan 28

New Eden


No posts yet???! Well, I had a couple of thoughts to share after listening and reading around the net. I keep hearing people say the people on the planet in New Eden were "taken against their will". And I don't find that particularly accurate. Nuclear bombs were about to hit. It's more like they were taken not by choice. Really don't think they were keen on dying. I don't really know how if any large number of them wanted to go home, how it could have been done. There were 11000 of them. I suppose Jacob and his daughter might have gone but .... I don't get the impression he wanted to go without others. He didn't actually even ask Pike if he could. Gosh, for some reason I sure love that whole scene between him and Pike in the basement. (But jeez, that was one bright ass church! lol).


Also the question I don't hear asked.....why did the Red Angel want Discovery to be the ship to investigate? It's pretty apparent the damage to the Enterprise was deliberate, just as they were to go investigate. It might not have been so much about stopping the investigation (and since they have been guided to two places needing rescue, we must assume it WANTS them there) but about getting Discovery to these locations. Hmmmmm.

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This is a great question. I guess I just kind of defaulted to "because they're our protagonists," but there must be an in-universe answer. Presumably we're building up to a point where the red signals business and the mycelial energy asteroid business turn out to be connected somehow ... and that Stamets will be at the center of it. Plus, we have living people interacting with people who have died -- and presumably this will develop into a question about whether there is an afterlife in the mycelial network. I'm very interested to see how these get tied together.


You're right about the logistics, of course, too. I'm surprised Pike didn't bring that up, but maybe he likes to win on moral grounds.

They do not have the big picture like we do. I can easily buy that Pike nor Michael have thought of this yet. I kind of wonder if it's more of an unexpected consequence between the mycelial network and the special properties of our dark matter/weird matter rock that manifestations may occur. (Which I like, if the Red Angel is an entity because at least it's not the all knowing Q type knowledge, something which always bothers me about the Q and makes them not that interesting. For me, if it weren't for John DeLancie making Q entertaining, he doesn't have much of a point in the St universe. I know I am nearly alone in that opinion.)

Jan 29

@Karen Chuplis Not really alone in that, I really dislike all the Q episodes. I agree with you that there is a distinction between being taken against your will and being rescued from certain death and deposited in an Eden like planet. Also I think Joshua understands that the two cultures have taken vastly different paths and so are not easily compatible and given that he chooses to stay with his own people .

@kev may I think given the choice of returning (again exactly how, I'm not sure since DSC is the only ship with capability) could be overwhelming enough to destroy the fabric of their society, human descendants or not. I'm not even sure bringing more tech is a great idea. The power cell was more like giving them back their battery.

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