Jan 25, 2018

Mirror Ramblings


Edited: Jan 25, 2018

This is just a series of unconnected thoughts about the mirror universe that I've been pondering lately. They're not really directly connected to Discovery, but I wanted to write them down somewhere!


Why haven't the terrans crossed over to our universe and just conquered everything?


They obviously know about our universe at a high level and are possibly even more technically advanced than us, given all the fancy killing devices they've come up with. (Not to mention that little star they carry around in the imperial flagship!) So you'd think they'd be able to figure out a way to cross over and make a go at taking over the Federation.


Arguments against my fantasy include: 1. since the Federation is cooperative, it probably has a much larger number of ships and personnel to throw at a war; and 2. When the Federation goes to war, it really goes to war, and all this love-everybody talk goes out the window. I could see the show-writers going somewhere interesting with this given how they opened the series with the Klingon mocking of "we come in peace". Season 2: the mirror universe invades ours, and in the course of fighting them, the Federation starts acting even more evil than the Terrans in order to win. (I really hope they don't actually do this, because Season 1 has been dark enough, I would really prefer a slightly lighter-weight next season.)


General implausibility of the mirror universe concept as presented


I feel silly even writing this down, because I usually try not to devote a lot of time and energy to nitpicking the real-physics plausibility of sci-fi shows. But I really liked this observation that I read online a few years ago, by my friend Joe Sondow (who runs a bunch of popular Trek-themed Twitter accounts like RikerGoogling, PicardTips, etc).


His observation is that there's no way a universe with such radically different social dynamics could result in this long sustained history of the same people hooking up and having the same kids over generations to produce genetically identical doppelgangers to people in our universe.


And the more I think about it, it doesn't make much sense for there to be a half-Vulcan Spock on the ISS Enterprise in the original Mirror, Mirror. One would think that Terrans would frown on interspecies relationships, "half-breeds" and non-humans serving on ISS starships!


Speaking of sex…


It occurs to me that the reason they need all the sexiness in the mirror universe is, at the rate people get killed off, you'd need a tremendous birth rate just to keep the population from collapsing!


Okay I'm done.

Jan 25, 2018

Oh, one other aspect of Joe's post about his skepticism of the mirror universe continuity-with-ours concept was that, maybe we're not dipping into the same mirror universe each time, but one that just happens to match up with the current state of our own 😈

Jan 25, 2018

Thank you, I've also long thought about this: that the concept of Trek's Mirror Universe (or any kind of Mirror Universe built on such radically different values) does not seem feasible in the least LOL


Not only in how it could yield doppelgangers at all, but then... these doppelgangers also happen to hold the same names, jobs, and ranks as our own characters?? And within such a dark and violent Mirror society, how the f--k would any of our doppelgangers even have the slightest chance of surviving long enough for us to discover them, and have fun adventures involving them?! How could that society itself survive?


HOWEVER we've recently heard smarties like Stephen Hawking state there's a good chance that any sentient E.T.s who reach out to us would be from a malevolent culture (!). So while I still have a tough time believing in the doppelganger stuff, maybe the idea of an advanced culture built on routine workplace assassination is legit.



Jan 26, 2018

Chrissam42, these are the thoughts I have on the train every morning and I, for one, am glad to know I’m not alone (which doubles as a sneaky comment about how I might have a doppleganger, because I’m still holding out hope).


1. I agree that it’s the generational point that’s most confusing, re: the general implausibility of the same people hooking up at the exact same time in every universe. This coudl be a comment on relationships and fate, but I prefer not to think about it.


2. Maybe Section 31 has been busy devoting itself to holding of multiple, ongoing Mirror Universe attacks, and we just don’t know about them? Now there’s a Star Trek show I’d watch!


P.S. I’m fan-girling out a little over here that you know the person that does RikerGoogling. Such a great account.


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