Feb 7, 2018

Burnham's reluctance


After listening to the latest review, I wanted to remind Glenn of the episode of TNG where a Romulan needed a blood transfusion and Worf was the only match. Worf refused to save the Romulan, even when the request came directly from Picard! He noted that he would do it if Picard ordered him , but Picard said he would not do that. not

There was also an episode of Voyager with B'elanna not assisting someone in a similar situation. situation

I've always appreciated captains not imposing their will personal matters, and this situation is no different. She actually has more leverage to why she couldn't comply with that request than the other two characters. Just my thoughts!!



Feb 7, 2018

I can certainly understand it. Any decision to approach Ash must be hers, on her own terms and after preparing herself mentally for the encounter. She has to be sure that she is ready or it will compromise her.

Feb 7, 2018Edited: Feb 7, 2018

Latasha, thank you for reminding me of The Enemy -- I can't believe I'd forgotten about that episode. This is the episode where we really see Worf struggling with the death of his parents at the hands of Romulan soldiers -- a situation very similar to Burnham's own.


And I don't disagree with Burnham. I can't imagine someone asking me to go visit the person who betrayed my trust and intimacy and tried to strangle me to death. I think I would be an absolute wreck if I were in her situation, and I really admire Burnham's ability to keep her composure through all of this. I do believe in Sarek's message, but it is hard to follow -- it can take a real force of will to forgive your enemy and to turn the other cheek.

Feb 7, 2018

I think this is about self preservation rather than forgiveness. Since Ash attacked her the action has been intense and non stop. She has not had time to process the events and her feelings about them.

Given how difficult she finds her emotions to understand and control I believe that she very rightly felt that unless she took some time to work out her thoughts and emotions before seeing Ash she would probably just make everything worse for both of them. She then went away and did some deep thinking and feeling so that when she finally does visit Ash she is able to explain her position and thoughts cogently.

Feb 8, 2018

Intense and non-stop is right. It's been months for us, but for the crew of the Discovery the battle at Pahvo was only about a week ago. I don't know how any of them are able to process anything. And it doesn't look like there's going to be a break from the action any time soon.

Feb 9, 2018

@Glenn - Pahvo was only a week ago in their time?! OMG, I did not realize that. These people must be on some serious drugs just to keep standing! hahaha

Feb 9, 2018

Haha, yeah. Maybe everyone just needs a nap.

Feb 9, 2018

Ok everyone deep breaths. Lets get some yoga going and de-stress in the middle of this war we are losing.

Feb 10, 2018

I want to transfer to the ship where you're captain, Latasha. Is there an opening for a bartender?

Feb 11, 2018

Thanks so much for sharing those episodes, Latasha! It's always awesome to see Trek having a history of nuance and compassion when it comes to the balance of well-being within a militaristic structure. As was probably pretty obvious from the podcast, I agree with you and with kev may that Burnham’s own well-being was put on the back burner a few times in the episode, which I didn’t always think was fair.


Can we see it being ok to ask her to do this if it is necessary for the survival of the ship and the crew more broadly? That wasn’t my take on what was happening here - Ash seems to be doing pretty ok on his own, but maybe that’s just my interpretation!


Also I think what we all need is some tap dancing and some yoga on the holodeck. :)

Feb 12, 2018

Another chance for Tilly to break out her thing at a party! Saru dancing!

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